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Old 12-18-2009, 01:04 AM   #1
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Default Carbon parts from Plafit for the 1700 chassis.

Hi guys,

Please take note that Plafit has released a few carbon parts for use with the 1700 chassis. These are already available in Australia from Acehobbies as well as from some overseas Plafit dealers.

However, the range is currently limited to the standard U-plate, standard guide tongue and standard T-plate.

If anymore carbon parts - from Plafit - become available, we'll let you know.

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Old 12-30-2009, 09:57 AM   #2
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Do other retail outlets have them or only Ace at this stage?

4.7. No carbon parts are allowed, unless manufatured by Plafit for the 1700 series.


These goal post will continue to move as more parts become available, without making these cars cost prohibitive could we just say no carbon upgrade parts allowed.

Hmmm thats the thing, the cost i have seen for some of these cars are getting out of this world, we do need to keep some sort of cap on the price i feel.

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Old 12-30-2009, 11:00 PM   #3
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Do other retail outlets have them or only Ace at this stage?

4.7. No carbon parts are allowed, unless manufatured by Plafit for the 1700 series.


These goal post will continue to move as more parts become available, without making these cars cost prohibitive could we just say no carbon upgrade parts allowed.

Hmmm thats the thing, the cost i have seen for some of these cars are getting out of this world, we do need to keep some sort of cap on the price i feel.
Paul,

Acehobbies is the Australian Distributor of Plafit - if Werner has it in stock, all the retail outlets in Aussie are able to get it. In fact any overseas competitors in the PEC will be able to get these parts from their local Plafit distributor or dealer.

Yes, as new parts for the specified chassis become available (from Plafit) they will be allowed on the cars. It is our intention to keep everyone informed of these additions as and when they become applicable. However, it will not be subject to specific homolgation as it is deemed legal within the rules.

The addition of alternative parts (from Plafit) is essencial for development and experimentation within the class.

The cost of this class was never a factor, the quality and top level compitition within the class has been. What the cost of ones car end up being, is directly related to what you are willing to spend within the rules. I am sure you will agree that the maximum cost is pretty much whatever the most expensive selection of parts all add up to - which in no way will ensure the fastest or best car.

At recent races with these cars it has become obvious that the differences between various alternative builds are minimal and can mostly be neutralised by good preparation and driving skill - both of which are priceless.

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Old 12-30-2009, 11:08 PM   #4
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Not sure on the cost cap but I have now changed the three mentioned carbon parts on my sauber and it is now under weight , so I don't think there is any point in using them because I will need to add a weight plate so I maybe better off with the ali parts.
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Old 01-01-2010, 11:24 PM   #5
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We had a racer have that problem with the red devil and fitted a different base plate (I am a huge fan of weight rules as we use them all the time in Drag racing)

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@ the two Paul's


Paul NZ, you have actually "mistakenly" discovered one of the majo tuning capabilities of these cars. Yes, by adding the Carbon Fibre Kit, you've gone under-weight..
Whats the fix? Add a Weight Plate.

How does that benefit you, you may ask? Easy, it allows you to LOWER the Center of Gravity of your chassis. The general handling of your car should now IMPROVE, as the weight is 2 to 3 mm's lower than it was before.. Make sense now??

You've followed Nick's and Fola's builds very closely on the forum for a few months, and Nick has explained this often. The manufacturers don't do this for their own benefit guys, it's to hlp dvelop the hobby/class and take it to the next, more competitive level.

PS: PLEASE sign off your posts with your real name, as is the standard requirement on this Forum guys. We don't want any "heated" debates to happen because we don't know who is who, or like some of the slander matches on other forums..

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Slander on a forum, that wouldn't happen would it

We like to share the love on this one

Big Al is right though Paul (Paul's). At least you can position the weight. With a controlled chassis, any advantage is a good one. Paul D, you are also right in that it does kick the cost, but as Jan has pointed out, this class is towards the upper end of Model Car Racing. There are other plafit/model car classes that are more controlled as far as cost goes..

Good news is that these chassis do last a hell of a long time. So spread the cost over the time you can use it, it is not too bad. There is always "upgrades" for slot cars that will cost money. Regardless of what sort of slot car you run, there will be different things that come along. I am yet to be given a free one !!.. Is a complete Group C car still cheaper than an open motor ???.. I have a few of these siting around from the good old Wynnum Drag days that cost me a bomb, along with countless other cars (drag cars, wing cars, flexi's even the good old wompies) that were expensive at the time. But it is the hobby we choose to play with. And that is the beauty of all this. You can choose to participate, or move on to something else that is more suitable to your pocket or likes.

(This is a non political statement, just a personal view issued on behalf of the Pete for PM party.... How is that Jan....)

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Ok, Its really Pete R, Nomad Hobbies, Toowoomba
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:27 AM   #8
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Pete for PM's veiw is spot on.
At the end of the day there will always be the man with lots of money we all have to compete against,not saying it makes them win always.In saying that if the good parts are available and is best for long term,i agree they should be able to be used,regardless the class we all compete in.


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Default So carbon, or no Carbon?

I haven't read all the post on the forum about the carbon parts made by plafit for the 1700 chassis, but can we use them? Are these the ones on the Ace Hobbies site?

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I haven't read all the post on the forum about the carbon parts made by plafit for the 1700 chassis, but can we use them? Are these the ones on the Ace Hobbies site?

Thanks, Mike.
Mikey,

The parts on the Acehobbies site are the only ones we can use. They are made by Plafit for the 1700 series. At this stage I think it is only the standard parts that are available in carbon - none of the alternative parts yet. So check that it is the correct parts, before you buy.

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