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Old 02-08-2010, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default Dison race management judgements

First all thanks to everybody for a great beginning of the OEPS Series.

However some adjustments of the race management rulings are required..

During the first day session my team Sc Minimale lost the rearwing. Normaly this is easyly fixed with tape, and will only take 1 or 2 laps time.
However,the racemanagement was very clear; No tape is allowed, the wing MUST be glued back in right place. The repair lasted 15 laps before we could return to the track.. This would be OK if all others with the same fault were asked to glue their rearwings on,if lost.
BUT... several other teams were allowed to use tape for the repair later in the race. This is not fair!

My team raced in the 3rd heat of the first race session, but missed the 3rd heat in the night session with only 3 laps . We lost between 13-14 laps during the repair with glue (and not tape) - read: we would have stayed among the fastest drivers in 3rd heat for the night session if we were allowed to use tape, as several other teams were allowed.
Also we were only 10 laps from the ninth place in the overall result (Which we did know when we posted the written protest to Borge after we finished the race iin. second heat of the sunday day session).

Racemanagement can easily check our results from the first day session and find we lost more than 15 laps in one of our stints compared to our other results in thesame session. This due to the difficult job to clue the rearwing back on the damaged rear end of the body.

Please have in mind , one of the main reasons for starting the OEPS series was to have fair racing and to avoid strange suspicious rulings as seen in previous series.

I'm fully aware about the stressy job to sit in the race management, but we MUST have fair ruling in the OEPS series- It is not fair to have different rulings in the same race for same fault - we are all competitors and should be treated alike.

I hope race management are against unfair racing. :

Again thanks for a good race

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Old 02-08-2010, 11:21 PM   #2
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Hi Gorm,

Good point - the rest of us are learning from your experience(s). The point being that all our rules should be clear on what an acceptable repair is - tape or back to spec.

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Old 02-10-2010, 05:39 AM   #3
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The following message is posted on behalf of the organizers of OEPS and the Race Directors of the Dison race.:

During the OEPS race in Dison the Race Directors had to take lots of fast on the move decisions. Most worked out to everyone’s satisfaction. Some on the other hand did not. That is the cross that we as Race Directors and organizers have to bear.

By the same token some racers/teams will be dealt a blow by a split second decision. This Ladies & Gentlemen is part of racing, both in 1:1 and in 1/24 model car racing.

As a results of the lessons learned in Dison, the organizers of OEPS will publish some clearifications to the race day proceedings to counter these situations to arise again.

After deliberations we have rejected the written protest from Scuderia Minimale and Gorm Nørgaard.

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Børge Haug & Pål Hanson
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:48 AM   #4
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Hi Borge and Paal

It is OK. In football many wrong referee judgements are made without any concequence. That is a part of the game.
Also I did write that I were aware about the stressy situation for the race management. So no problem, just hope the procedures will be adjusted and clarified prior to next race.
And yes, I agree it is correct to rule that lost body parts must be glued on, inn order to stay true to the modelbuilding concept.
Tape should not be allowed (At least not visible)

Again thanks for a good race in Dison

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Old 02-10-2010, 07:41 AM   #5
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Hi Borge and Paal

It is OK. In football many wrong referee judgements are made without any concequence. That is a part of the game.
Also I did write that I were aware about the stressy situation for the race management. So no problem, just hope the procedures will be adjusted and clarified prior to next race.
And yes, I agree it is correct to rule that lost body parts must be glued on, inn order to stay true to the modelbuilding concept.
Tape should not be allowed (At least not visible)

Again thanks for a good race in Dison

Brgds
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Gorm,

I like your attitude and your acceptance of what has happened, all in the spirit of improvement and enjoyment of our racing.

Well done to everyone involved.

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Old 02-10-2010, 07:41 AM   #6
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Hi Borge and Paal

It is OK. In football many wrong referee judgements are made without any concequence. That is a part of the game.
Also I did write that I were aware about the stressy situation for the race management. So no problem, just hope the procedures will be adjusted and clarified prior to next race.
And yes, I agree it is correct to rule that lost body parts must be glued on, inn order to stay true to the modelbuilding concept.
Tape should not be allowed (At least not visible)

Again thanks for a good race in Dison

Brgds
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Hi Guys!

This leads to problems in other parts of the body. We drove a RS Spyder body from Nick. The whole back was cracked out after a marshall put our car in the wrong lane. If I am not allowed to tape this, I can even pack my things and have some beers because ist would take about 20 min to glue this with epoxy and laminate some fibres in there.
That can`t be the choice for teams that build cars in dozens of hours for this race series.

Why not taping? This is even usual in 1:1 motorsports!

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:20 AM   #7
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hello guys,

First of all Gorm, thank you very much for your reaction on this.

Now, as Pal stated, we will clarify the rules in this area, on what has to be fixed and what materials used are allowed, and obviously these clarifications will made to benefit the teams and make life as easy as can be if you are having a problem.

We will keep you informed on this.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:38 AM   #8
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Hi Gerd

If we should allow taping in OEPS in should be in scale 1/24, otherwise it will look wrong. OEPS is also about looks - not only among racers but also among cars.

I will for the next race prepare an extra wing mounted on thin lexan (Car be painted in the body colors or clear). Such a wing will be fast to glue on the rear of the car with snap glue)

But anyway lets await the race managements clarifications.

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Old 02-10-2010, 10:09 AM   #9
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hm... let´s see what the mentioned rule clarifications will look like.

If oyu ask me personally, not allowing tape would be quite stupid. But again let´s wait.

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:39 PM   #10
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Guys,

I'd also like to add, I'd like to think I can capably build a good looking concourse car, one thing which is glaring from those Pictures, is the fact ther lights do not have lenses over them..

This may seem trivial to some, but from experience, this leads to the overall look of the series being degraded and losing it's attraction. Next race, guys who HAD built cars correctly, start leaving off the mirrors, or spoilers, and then inserts, and lenses, and the next thing, the cars just look scruffy and effortless. Don't let this happen to this series.

Something to keep in mind if you are going to deliberate rules before your next round.

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